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Tucker Green, Lobbyist, Association Executive & Advocate for the Trades, guest on The Hunt for Success podcast

Tucker Green

Lobbyist, Association Executive & Advocate for the Trades, Tucker Green & Associates

A Georgia deer hunter who found quail late and fell harder for it. The stand is where he turns the world off, the covey rise is where he gets it back, and either way it teaches the same thing the Capitol does: you do not get to pick the day it finally works.

  • Government Affairs
  • Association Management
  • Legislative Advocacy
  • Trades Industry Policy
  • Georgia State Politics

About Tucker Green

What Tucker built

Tucker grew up in a north Georgia family that has run a small business since 1971 and stayed active in the local chamber, sponsoring ball teams, showing up. Nobody in the house was political. By his parents' account he was born an old soul, and the pull toward government and civics showed up early anyway. He was the first in his family to go to college, went to the University of Georgia, and while he was still there, folks back home in Pickens County asked him to run for the school board. He won at 21 and became the youngest school board member in the state. That race got him noticed by a former state representative turned lobbyist, who hired him out of school and then retired a short stint later. Tucker took a piece of that book of business and built Tucker Green & Associates on it. The firm is unusual for the government affairs world: alongside the lobbying it runs full-scale association management, events and day-to-day operations, because that is what his clients actually needed. The biggest of them is the Conditioned Air Association of Georgia, 650-plus HVAC, plumbing and electrical contractors, an organization that has existed since 1980 and that his company now runs behind the scenes. He has been named one of Georgia's top five rising star lobbyists two years running, and his shop has passed one to two pieces of legislation a year for four or five straight sessions.

Tucker in the field

He grew up in the woods. Deer hunting in Georgia, then a lease down in Selma, Alabama, which worked out neatly because the Georgia season closes around December and Alabama is just getting going. His granddad has hunted all over the world and, twenty-odd years ago, went in with friends on a farm in southwest Iowa that turned into an outfit, so Tucker draws that about every other year and gets to look at corn-fed whitetails standing in a field like cattle. The surprise is that quail took over. He only started bird hunting six or seven years ago and now says he would go every day if he could, and that he probably enjoys it more than deer. Deer hunting is the therapeutic version, sitting in a stand with the world switched off. Bird hunting is the social one: a group of guys, a little more action, the dogs working. He shoots a 280 for deer and a 20-gauge over-under for birds, wears a lucky toboggan and a blood-stained orange vest a family friend gave him that is big enough to go over his winter deer gear, and packs a Coke and a honey bun in Iowa every single time. Elk, moose, bear and a turkey grand slam are on the list.

Why this conversation matters

The legislative win he is proudest of is a permit fee reform bill, and what makes it worth an hour is how long it took to lose. His mentor was working on it before Tucker was ever hired. Tucker worked it alongside him, then carried it alone for years after the retirement. Cities and counties were charging contractors thousands in permitting and regulatory fees that had quietly become profit centers, which Georgia law already prohibited, and they fought the bill hard. He got it through the House, the Senate amended it, the House adjourned before agreeing, and the whole thing went back to zero. That collapse happened for a reason that had nothing to do with the policy or the work: his sponsor had gotten sideways with leadership on something unrelated and got put in the penalty box, so nothing with that man's name on it was getting called up for a vote. It was Tucker's first bill on his own after leaving his mentor, and he felt like he had let everybody down. He came back the next session and passed it. Then two cities kept charging in violation of the new law, his attorneys served them, and they had to write reimbursement checks back to the contractors.

“It's not every day you get a city to write you a check for saying, yeah, we overcharged you.”
Tucker Green

Key takeaways from Tucker Green

The ideas Tucker left on the table in episode 16.

  • It's easier to kill a bill than to pass one.

    Two thousand to twenty-five hundred bills get introduced in a Georgia session, and maybe two hundred and fifty make it to the governor's desk. The process is tedious by design, as it should be. Which means most of the job is defense, stopping bad policy from becoming law, and almost none of that work gets seen or credited.

  • The proudest win took years, and then it took starting over.

    Permit fee reform was his mentor's project before he was ever hired. He worked it alongside him, then carried it alone for years after the retirement. It cleared the House, came back amended from the Senate, and died when the House adjourned before agreeing. That is as close as you can get and still have to begin again.

  • Two cities had to write the checks back.

    Municipalities were charging contractors thousands in permitting fees that had become profit centers, which Georgia law already prohibited. After the new law narrowed how those fees could be calculated, two cities kept charging anyway. His attorneys served them, the law was upheld, and the cities issued reimbursement checks to his members.

  • The best legislators have signed the front of a paycheck.

    Not just the back of one. The lawmakers he finds most effective are the ones who have run a business themselves, or whose family did, because they know it is not rainbows and butterflies from the outside looking in. It is also why his own win felt personal: those are the people he grew up around.

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